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Parabellum Scout Fairing? Turning the Bonnie into a Goldwing or a Harley Triumphson?

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#1 ·
The short of it is: does the Parabellum work?
I am slowly trying to turn the Bonnie into an all-around bike, which is one that I can commute on everyday and use for touring during the weekends/vacations. So far I've fixed the seat problem with a Corbin but now I find that the Triumph fly screen is great for 2 to 3 hour rides but doesn't deflect enough air for ride times beyond that. We went on a 7 hour ride yesterday and I am tired. Windblast from semi's going faster than 80mph, plain old headwind and wind noise in the helmet is a pain, even with earplugs. Other than that, no vibrations, no tingly's, the Bonnie could make a great tourer. Next problem will be the handlebars. I tend to slump forward after a while and that makes my back sore until I straighten up, then it goes away. Are there some that will help you sit upright more, eg. reach further rearward by 2 or 3 inches?
 
#2 ·
If you're looking to mount THE BEST (and most expensive) form of protection from the elements, it IS without a doubt the Parabellum Scout fairing. It not only offers significant protection, but unlike soooo many other windshields (even "barn door" windshields), the Scout is quiet to ride behind, and felt turbulence has all but been eliminated via naca-duct technology.

In my opinion, the Scout looks almost too large on the Bonneville. It is for this reason that one should consider either "LeatherLyke" (SP?) hard bags, or the expensive and removable Hepco & Becker hard bags. To put something at the back like that will tie the Scout in quite well.

You've got a good seat. Corbin's approach is to put one's butt in a firm saddle, as too soft a seat may constrict blood flow..... causing numbness and discomfort.

You didn't mention if you had done anything to your suspension. Consider either Works Performance or Ohlins, as they are about the only shock absorbers that a knowledgeable suspension specialist can re-valve to YOUR needs, and/or rebuild without HAVING TO return to the original manufacturer. You get what you pay for, and a good suspension not only improves the control you have over your bike, but increases felt comfort going down the road.

Handlebars...... trial and error. NOBODY can tell you what may be good for YOUR body type and riding position. You might want to consider ConvertaBars or even Heli Bars, as they are adjustable for height and wrist angle.
And they're....... you guessed it, expen$ive.

Good luck, and GOOD RIDING!
 
#3 ·
Thanks for the reply. I've wondered if these things worked well or were no better than a fly screen or a windshield. It is expensive, but after yesterday's painful ride, it seems like a sacrifice will have to be made.
I have looked at the Hepco's 30L hard bags and they look pretty good as well.
Suspension-wise, I'm not really sure what I should be looking for or if a problem exists. I know from other shocks/fork spring threads that people do not like a bouncy ride. This hasn't been a problem for me with the stock setup. They are very stiff, yet smooth, even on washboard roads, on straight-aways and in turns. It seems the stock setup is only good for a certain range of rider weight. I'm 5'9"/170lbs and the existing shocks appear to work well. What did it change on your bike and how is control affected exactly? I know that my co-workers, who both have Yamaha FZ6's often have problems during bumpy turns with rear wheel hop, but the Bonneville stays put in the same turns.
The handle bars are a different matter. Maybe the wind is causing me to ride bent down trying to find dead-air pockets. The helibars and convertibars look interesting but may not offer the amount of offset I was thinking about. (Although my wife is considering convertibars for her VFR.) Maybe bars from a cruiser style bike might work but that could open up a new problem, that of cable length both control cables and electrical, due to the amount of offset I'd like. We've re-figured that the bars would need to be placed 4" up and 4" rearward now. That new figure came about when I stood straight up in the seat and my helmet was in the dead-air pocket created by the fly screen. Maybe with a Parabellum, I don't even need it, who knows.
I really like the looks of the Parabellum and I was hoping someone would tell me they are effective. (At that price, it better be!) Thanks for the helpful inputs.
 
#4 ·
n578md,
Before the Parabellum Scout, I rode a lot with my feet on the passenger pegs--it helped me ride further. After the Parabellum Scout, I find I no longer need to change positions. After riding 4 or even 5 hours, I am less tired than I was riding for one hour without the Parabellum Scout.
Pat,
Is this enough bags on the rear to off-set the size of the Parabellum Scout?? I was getting ready to leave for a Rat Raid. :-D
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#6 ·
Wow! That's a beautiful motorcycle Redbird. I like that blue with the blacked out headers and pipes! Yeah, that's a heck of a blue! What does the back of the fairing look like? I can sorta tell you have some gauges up there. Good report. It's too bad lead time is 5 weeks! (No rides to Talimena Drive until August at least!) What size windshield did you get? They recommended that for my height, or lack thereof (5'9"), I'd need at least a 14" if not a 16".

[ This message was edited by: n578md on 2006-07-09 21:38 ]
 
#9 ·
n578md:
Do you have a name we can use? I feel like I'am addressing a post to The BORG :-D The Parabellum is a great fairing and will do most everything your looking for. I would suggest you try the fairing for awhile before you change the stock bars. Also, the 10" shield is good for the hot weather, it lets in a lot more air but is noisier then the taller shields which are very quiet. One more thing, I recommend if you get a tall shield you get the clear one. I have a 10" tinted which is fine because I look way over it so its not in my normal sight line but I also have a 16" in tint and although I look over it for highway use, close up low speed work I look through it and it seems to dark to me. My two cents. Good luck!

Terry :cool:


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[ This message was edited by: trisuz on 2006-07-10 19:26 ]
 
#10 ·
I'm 5'8", but I don't know my seating height. I did a lot of measurements and talked to Parabellum and although they recommended an 18" windshield at the time, I ordered a 16" windshield (tinted). It is the perfect height for me. I look over it and the bug line starts just above my visor on my full-face helmet. I also ordered a 10" shield for the HOT summer months. The bug line with it starts at about my neck, but it is more hot Wx tolerant. I also have a King/Queen seat which may sit me a half inch higher--don't know for sure. Here's a look from the "driver's seat". I have only put a cheap clock on the dash thus far.

Larry

Thanks for the kind comments...especially Pat...I know you have seen a lot of bikes and take your appearance mods very seriously.

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#11 ·
Terry...Thanks for the pics of the Parabellum in black. I've been wondering what a black Parabellum would look like on a black bonnie.
n578md...As a side comment; Parabellum told me that if I ordered it unpainted, I could install it and ride with it for awhile to see if I really liked it...if I didn't like it I could return it for a full refund. Painting by a custom paint shop cost about what the Parabellum cost unpainted, but that is the avenue I traveled.

Larry
 
#12 ·
Terry and Larry, thanks for the pictures and recomendations. So my own bike will look close to Terry's with the fairing installed. Not bad at all, great in fact. Today, I ordered a black Parabellum with a 16" tinted windshield. The lady I talked to told me they had redesigned the fairing since the picture on the web was taken. The front plastic part above the headlight is now 1" taller than it was before. (It was ~4" before) Terry, it looks like you have the newer design. As Fattrat alluded to, the air intake in the center is an air pressure relief vent to elliminate turbulences between the windshield and the rider's face. Cool stuff. So in figuring the correct windshield height, it came down to 5" of fairing + 16" of windshield for 21" total. 20" total would have been enough for someone 5'9". The heat, I'm used to, not the noise, so I erred on the side of caution. My wife told me: Always better "too much" than "not enough" huh? Otherwise I'd be riding a Virago 250cc which I originally wanted to buy!!
If the windshield doesn't work for me, she told me I could exchange it within 30 days, so no harm done. I also asked her about Gary's idea of the Sport Shield and she told me that the Scout Fairing has about 15 to 20% more effectiveness at cutting wind and noise but that the Sport Shield is still very effective. Also it could be shipped in 2 days rather than the 5 to 6 weeks for the fairing. So, the fairing should be here in mid-August. Funny thing, I found some older Vetter and Pacifico fairings on Ebay. Cheaper but close to 30lbs! The (newer) Parabellum is only 6lbs. And they would have required rewiring the headlight and turn signal. In my hands, it would have probably been a butchering of the like that hasn't been seen since the French got their crepes folded at Dien Bien Fu in 1954. Poor Bonnie. Here's some of the more interesting ones I dug up:


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(Terry, my name is Marc. Borg? That sounds Swedish. Huh, definitly not Swedish...)
 
#13 ·
On 2006-07-10 19:50, RedBird wrote:
Terry...Thanks for the pics of the Parabellum in black. I've been wondering what a black Parabellum would look like on a black bonnie.
n578md...As a side comment; Parabellum told me that if I ordered it unpainted, I could install it and ride with it for awhile to see if I really liked it...if I didn't like it I could return it for a full refund. Painting by a custom paint shop cost about what the Parabellum cost unpainted, but that is the avenue I traveled.

Larry
Yeah, there is a 20% restocking fee since I ordered it already painted but I'm pretty sure I'll like it. I like the way they look. The only reason I can think of that I wouldn't like it is if it doesn't cut wind noise or windblast enough. But you guys say it does, so I'm not too worried about it. By the way, that driver's view looks good. Nice and clean, unlike those unfinished fairings. I might even be able to put a small tach and an oil temperature gauge there.

[ This message was edited by: n578md on 2006-07-10 20:17 ]
 
#14 ·
Marc:
In the 1990’s there was a TV show called Star Trek the Next Generation. They would fly all over space interfacing with all types of alien life forms, some friend and some foe. One particularly tough, universe dominating species was call THE BORG. They functioned as a group and had no individual personalities.
They had all kinds of electromechanical implants that gave them super strength and abilities. Oh yea, to get to the point, they didn’t have names just numbers like ( 9 of 14 ). Incidentally ( 7 of 9 ) was a Fox!!

Ride well my friend!
Terry
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#15 ·
Terry, I am indeed aquainted with the Borg and the Collective. Like them, I have no individual personality. Case in point, I was almost assimilated by my co-workers and I almost bought a Harley Fat Boy! Resistance has proved fruitful in that case. I was quoting Lilly in Star Trek First Contact. When Picard tells her about the Borg, she says : "The Borg? That sounds Swedish." When she first sees a Borg, she then says "Definitly not Swedish...".

I called Parabellum and changed the 16" tinted windshield to a 16" clear windshield. You're right, it would be difficult looking through a tinted windshield at night, since I ride at night a lot.

[ This message was edited by: n578md on 2006-07-11 18:15 ]
 
#17 ·
Marc:
I feel really stupid, I was wondering how someone, from the States at least, could make it to the 21st century and not know about The Borg, LOL.
I think your really going to like that fairing and the clear shield will definitely be better for night time use. The tinted one I have along with my tinted face shield is to dark for me even in the Florida sunshine. I only used it for a week or so before I put the short shield on for summer. I guess I’ll find out this winter if I can get use to it or if I’ll have to bite the bullet and get a clear one myself. They are pretty pricey to be changing out on a whim.

Ridge:
7 of 9 always did have impressive implants!

Terry
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#21 ·
Got the scout about $ years ago and just love it. I am 6 ft and use the 20 inch . I sit in a quiet pocket of air . I also use 2inch ROX risers and leather Like bags . Only problem with the bags are the top gaskets come off fairly easily so i have had to regale them several times .